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From the Gathering to the Glade with Pitch Black

Reported by HarderFaster / Submitted 23-07-08 20:29

One of the highlights of last weekend’s Glade Festival, Pitch Black showed once again why they’ve been considered one of the most innovative electronic acts around since their first live set at the 1997 Gathering Festival. Consisting of Paddy Free and Mike Hodgson, Pitch Black's sound is impossible to pigeon-hole, while their mind-blowing visual performances are even more difficult to describe. With Paddy mixing the sounds live on Ableton and Mike creating the most intense visuals you may see in a club, their music takes on another dimension to make one hell of a sensory experience: they've been described as “Richie Hawtin meets King Tubby, or Rhythm and Sound in Technicolor”. In London for just one live set at Cargo tomorrow night (Thursday 24 July) - preceded by a free workshop the guys are giving with fellow Kiwi Tom COSM on Ableton - Mike was kind enough to take some time out at the airport to answer a few questions for his fans on HarderFaster…


Pitch Black at the Glade 2008 by Sarah_G


Who or what have been your key musical influences over the years?

For me it is the artists that play with sound and manipulate it, rather than make “songs” structures, such as Warp artist, Amon Tobin. Then there is those that make it as songs but mess with production, like Adrian Sherwood. For me it is about losing time and being shifted.

If you were stuck on a desert island and could only have 5 albums each with you, what would they be?

Starship Africa — ‘Onu Sound’
Coldcut — Sound Mirrors’
Mozart — ‘Requiem’

What’s the music scene like down under these days?

Pumping… we have an industry and a scene, so there are artists really making a go of it and artists that are happy just doing their own thing because they want to. The public are right behind local tunes, there is plenty of NZ music on TV and the radio. The live scene is full of young bands getting it together and touring.

Do you play out much home in New Zealand or focus more on studio work?

We probably play overseas more than in NZ now, partly because our main crowd all have kids now and tend to only go out from time to time, so it is hard to do regular tours but we play festivals and special shows. We are currently planning some one-off AV shows and trying to work in other areas than the traditional clubs.



Your most recent album was the wonderful ‘Rude Mechanicals’. What was the main inspiration behind it?

It was time to make a new album. We tend to work over a couple of years here and there creating bits of vibe etc. Once we have some new material we get together and go over it all. We then bring personal sounds, beats, riffs to the table and choose which ones we like. Then we start in a studio for about six weeks and out pops a record!

Do you find each new album easier to put together or does each pose a new set of challenges?

It feels like every record is a challenge. We have our own style and we always want to improve it, so we push ourselves very hard each time we start the process. It always has its moments, but mostly it is a lot of fun to bring forth new tunes.

Since you first got together studio technology has evolved considerably. Have you had to change the way you do things much over the years?

The main change is moving away from analogue dubbing. We now use a fully digital mixing path, so we have lost some things we loved but gained others. Other than that it’s still about the output not the equipment.

What software and hardware do you use at the moment?

Sound
Ableton Live
2 x Mac bookpros
2 x Drebank midi controllers
Akai sampler
Remote 25

Video
Isadora



What are you looking forward to checking out this summer in the UK? Or is it all going to be work and no play?

Unfortunately it is all work. This is a short tour and we are pretty much just jumping in and out of the shows. Next time!

You first formed Pitch Black at the Gathering Festival on New Year’s Eve in 1997. When did you first meet and how did this come about?

We met a few months before and jammed in a studio. We both bought a new dimension to each other’s work, so started to make tunes and then went live with two of them. It was so much fun we bought the company.

Had you both been making music individually before then?

Yes for years. Both of us had always played electronic music live so we had a real desire to do that. Paddy was in Mesh when we met, I had a dub personal called The Projector, mix mashing up local tunes and mixing video live.

How do you think growing up and living in New Zealand has influenced your music?

It helps with the big quiet spaces in our tunes.



11 years on, what have been the highlights of Pitch Black for you both?

Still loving playing live. Loving being in the studio. Loving being able to do this as our life

What goals do you have for the future?

Keep going to new places to play. Do a film score!!

Why the name ‘Pitch Black’? Have you seen the movie of the same name?

I had a studio with no windows; it was called Pitch Black studios. When Paddy and I had to get a name fast for the Gathering show we stole the studio name. Yes, we went to opening night in Auckland when it came out.

Your tracks have been used on C.S.I. Miami, films, fashion shows and you’ve worked on a game for Playstation. What’s your favourite TV programme? Are you big gamers or do you see such projects as another form of music promotion?

Not really into TV, but I follow Lost and currently am enjoying the new Outrageous Fortune series. WE do not play games, it is all about creating an emotion so whether that is on an album, film, game or whatever, it is all about this. I do not see it as music promotion.



You’ve been described as “Richie Hawtin meets King Tubby, or Rhythm and Sound in Technicolor.” How would you describe the music you make?

As above.

You’re renowned for your awesome live sets. How do you put them together — music first or sound? What set up do you use to play live?

We work out how to turn the studio versions into bits and then join them together. It’s a lot of fun to drop these bits live and push the versions around.

Your bio says that: “Paddy wants to do it for the crowd, Michael wants to do it to the crowd.” How does this work in reality?

Paddy likes to entertain and make people feel good, I like to challenge and push the sonic barrier. So really Paddy is making sure that there is a musical through line and I am making a sonic through line.

You were one of the first live electronic acts to add the visual element to your music. Is this part of your musical inspiration? What inspires you to create such awesome visuals?

From the outset I always thought watching people twiddle knobs was boring, so I created video shows.



Even though you’re based in NZ you still tour the UK fairly regularly. How does this help and hinder your creativity? Would you ever consider living in the Northern Hemisphere full-time?

I lived here for two years. Paddy would come over each summer and I would go back to NZ each winter. That got us started touring over here. We both love living in NZ and travel enough to have both worlds.

New technology like Myspace has completely changed the way music is distributed and promoted. What’s your take on the digital download debate? You’ve recently given some downloads away for free, do you think this is where the future lies?

We love it. We signed all our digital rights three years ago to a single aggregator and sell plenty of tunes online... it’s all good.



Photos courtesy of Pitch Black. Not to be reproduced without permission.
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